God didn’t make mistake, then why nobody is perfect? what’s the purpose?

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An interesting post thrown in facebook community by an old friend of mine. Let’s seek for the truth on:

“God didn’t make mistake, then why nobody is perfect? what’s the purpose?”

Below are the dialogs that took place discussing the matter:

Aji Prabowo
In my point of view, God is truly faultless. Read your surroundings, people around you,.. Witness how this universe works,.. how your body works,. how God sustains all living things in the heaven and earth and you will experience the greatness of God,..🙂

Aji Prabowo
When one says nobody is perfect, I learned that’s how God put His tests on us, His creation,..
and the result of those tests plus His mercy, will determine the eligibility of each one of us to enter His heaven,..🙂

Aji Prabowo
That too, explains why do we need religion,. not merely its ritual, but also its way of life,. how should we live our life,..🙂

Aji Prabowo
It makes sense, right,..:)

Aji Prabowo
Question your religion,.. as there are so many religions on this face of earth,.. make sure the one that you are holding on is the one that calms your heart,..

Aji Prabowo
Seek for the truth,. and God will guide you to His straight path,..:)

Aji Prabowo
My standpoint is: there’s no compulsion in religion, seek for the one that calms your heart. I’m open for those who seek for the truth.. may His peace and blessings showered upon all of us,. ameen

Aji Prabowo
I believe nothing in this world is created without a purpose, so whatever happens upon us, either way good or bad,.. is just the form of how God puts us in His tests

Comment1(edited):
@ Aji Prabowo: Read James 1 :13 – 14 : ” Let no man say tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed … ” that’s conclude us that God is not making temptation or any kind of tests for us…

Aji Prabowo
@Comment1(edited): I agree to the script but not to the conclusion,..:) I agree that only Man that is prone to any temptation unlike God,.. But I don’t agree that God does not put any test on any of us,.. as that will nullify the purpose of the creation of heaven and hell,.. as that will nullify our purpose of life,..🙂 Aji Prabowo is welcoming any comments,.let’s seek for the truth of our own life, thanks Comment1(edited)

Aji Prabowo
There shall be no doubt in religion,..

Final word:
My standpoint is clear: there’s no compulsion in religion, seek for the one that calms your heart. I’m open for those who seek for the truth.. may His peace and blessings showered upon all of us,. ameen

29 thoughts on “God didn’t make mistake, then why nobody is perfect? what’s the purpose?

  1. Bro, I absolutely agree that temptation do happens in our life but its not the purpose of your life. It merely because God given us a free choice to choose and without any feeling of desires of temptation, there won’t be nothing to choose.

    As for me, the purpose of life is simply to enjoy life. I am the receipient of God’s love. Because my God is love and for love to be called love, One’s must pour (give) away that love to a receipient. If you love somebody but u r not able to released that love to somebody, its frustrating. Thats what happend to God, He is loved and He creates adam to enjoy His love, but again in order for Adam to truly enjoy His love, adam must have a free choice and therefore temptations would occur. As if….there’s no bad things then how you define good things?

    My standpoint is religion is not about right doing, its simply about right believing, right believing will produce right living.

    God is a perfect God, and for God to be perfectly justice, He can’t abandon one spot of sin, if He bend the law just a bit, it will be no more law, it will be injustice. Theres no hope for every one of us. Human simply just lowered down the justice of God and do whatever they think they can obey. But thats not the right things, God is not gonna lines all of humans and curves us up like in the high school where we think we still better compare to others people.
    But thanks be to God, He sees it that human merely not able to do it by ourselves and He came down to earth because He is justice and He is also love. So He came down and sacrifice Himself so that the justice of God is fulfill because He pay them all and at the same time He showed us His love by sacrificing His own Son. God’s justice and God’s love met perfectly at the cross so that today i can called my God….”Abba…Father you will never leave me nor forsaken me” for God had completely paid all my sins including past, present, and future.

    • Hey, Edward,.. it’s nice hearing from you again🙂
      Thanks for the comment, I found it very useful in enriching the views and interesting to read for the suggested topic.

      For your comment:
      .. temptation do happens in our life but its not the purpose of your life. It merely because God given us a free choice to choose and without any feeling of desires of temptation, there won’t be nothing to choose.

      *I think that’s why one can say human is much better than devil or even angels as unlike them, God on the other hand has given us the freedom to choose in leading our own life. Good point🙂

    • I also agree to your view on: As if….there’s no bad things then how you define good things ..🙂

      on your view:
      .. is not about right doing, its simply about right believing, right believing will produce right living.

      *I learned that right believing will lead us to what God wants from us as His believers. That comes in form of life guidance that is passed down to generation after generations through holy book and the teachings for our religious leaders. Therefore, right believing will gain right doing and by adhering to the orders, one will enjoy right living,..🙂

    • Moreover on your point:
      … He can’t abandon one spot of sin, if He bend the law just a bit, it will be no more law, it will be injustice. Theres no hope for every one of us. Human simply just lowered down the justice of God and do whatever they think they can obey. But thats not the right things, God is not gonna lines all of humans and curves us up like in the high school where we think we still better compare to others people.

      *I believe God is the almighty, All Just. He never bends law, on the other hand he is all merciful while in the same time He would punish those whom deserve His almighty punishment. With those attributes of God, humans will always have hope with His mercy as he is all merciful, the most compassionate ..🙂

    • on your view:
      …But thanks be to God, He sees it that human merely not able to do it by ourselves and He came down to earth because He is justice and He is also love. So He came down and sacrifice Himself so that the justice of God is fulfill because He pay them all and at the same time He showed us His love by sacrificing His own Son. God’s justice and God’s love met perfectly at the cross so that today i can called my God….”Abba…Father you will never leave me nor forsaken me” for God had completely paid all my sins including past, present, and future.

      *I believe that deriving from one of God’s attribute that he is all-just, He would never put anything on His creations beyond their ability to bear it. So with that in mind, I don’t see any reason why God as the supreme being, the omnipotent should sacrifice himself or even His son in which I view it impossible for Him to beget a son as the attribute of Him having a son will, in fact deter on of His attributes as being the supreme being of all universe.

    • Lastly, on your view:
      … so that today i can called my God….”Abba…Father you will never leave me nor forsaken me” for God had completely paid all my sins including past, present, and future.

      *I believe that God will always be there for us with open arms if we want to return to Him and work toward it,..
      However, correct me if I am wrong (CMIIW) now you tell me, if all of our sins are forgiven that includes past, present, and future,.. then where is God’s justice when evaluating pious people against the sinners to enter His paradise? Thanks.

  2. *I believe that God will always be there for us with open arms if we want to return to Him and work toward it,..
    However, correct me if I am wrong (CMIIW) now you tell me, if all of our sins are forgiven that includes past, present, and future,.. then where is God’s justice when evaluating pious people against the sinners to enter His paradise? Thanks.

    –> To answer this questions, I can only answer this according to my believed, which means according to my guidence which in my case is the Bible.

    Ok, so first I need to define who is this previous peoples that you are talking about. SO ok, let me define my previous peoples.

    OLD COVENANT
    in my Bible, we have two covenants, which are the old and the new. So the previous people I’m talking about is the one that under the old covenant.
    So the old covenant people is the one that are under God’s law. which are the 10 commandments and the high priest law of sacrificing. So in this old covenant, one’s have to obeyed God’s law in order for them to be Blessed on earth.

    BEFORE EVEN THE OLD COVENANT
    But how about adam or abraham,Isaac, Jacob or someone before the old covenant? old covenant was given when the Israelite arrived to Mount Sinai onwards. Why God give the old covenant? because at that time man boasting on their own efforts. It was recorded on the Bible that after Moses bring them from Egypt passing the red sea etc they arrived to Mount Sinai. At that mountain they were saying to Moses who represent them to God, saying that “everything that God command we can obey” When all this while God bring the from Egypt to this mountain all by God’s grace. Nothing to do with their behaviour. In fact, they are complaining, murmuring along the way but not single person died. up to this mount sinai. Then in mount sinai they said well we can do all that God commands us to do. In other words, they dont want God’s deal with them based on God grace, they want to take part, they want to contribute something. Thats our ego. So God said to Moses ask them not to come near to this mountain lest they died. Why? because all of them had sinned and God is Holy, when sinned appear to light it died. So God gave them the commandments on this mountain.

    But before this, even Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, God dealt with them based on God’s grace, thats mean they dont died when they sinned.

    NEW COVENANT
    under the new covenant, God came to earth as a human, feels what human feels, being tempted by the devil just like human and yet succeed in everyway spotless and without sin. Yet the very purposed of God came to earth is to died for all of us. Why must He died? precisely because God is justice. You see if God did not sacrifice Himself then all of us cannot enter into heaven including Moses himself. God is justice and not one spot of sinned can go unpunished but God is also loved. He wants to have a relationship with us. SO what He do is that He payed all our sinned in His body so that we all get the benefit of it. God is living outside time so He can see all our sin and even we haven’t born at that time, He lived outside time because if God lived inside time, thats mean time is greater than God. No, God, created time, therefore God lived outside time and He is bigger than time, matter and space.

    So when Jesus died on that cross, notice that in the old covenant one’s have to sacrifice a lamb offering once every year for sin covering by the blood of the lamb. And in this new covenant, God make the most cruelty of human act which is crucifying God himself on the cross and God makes this act as our advantage in the sense of we sacrificing the biggest give which is God Himself. The Bible say that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whoever believed should not perished but have eternal life.

    So finally to answer your questions, when Jesus died He conquered the greatest sin which is death itself because at the beginning God never intend for human to died. God creates human for an eternity relationship. So when Jesus died He rose again and the Bible also said that He go to Hell and released all that are subject to sin, which are eveyones including moses and proclaim He is the savior of the world. If they belived they will go to heaven which I am sure they did.

    So God is just and if you ask me why Jesus came at that era and why dont He just came earlier then the answer is because God wants people to know that we, human needs a savior. We tend to boast on our capabilities in keeping the God law and we think that we can do it. The fact we all sinned, and we all need a savior and God dont want to deal with us based on rules and regulations. He wants a relationship. Notice that when Adam and Eve created, they can do almost anything except one thing whic is not to eat from the tree of knnowledge of good and evil. if at that time Adam lying or Adam angry with his wife, he is not sinning because there is no such commandments. God only ask Him one thing by not eating from that tree. Why? because God created a human not robot. So God wants adam to acknowledge Him by keeping that only one commandments. A choice to choose.

    God is so good, He is not looking for someone who can obey His law or serving Him. No, God have millions of angels who works tirelessly 24 hr praising and worship him. God created humans accroding to His image so that He can pur out His heart of love to us. We are the beneficiary of all the good things.

    • what an elaborate comment, thanks, Edward.
      First comment:
      .. Yet the very purposed of God came to earth is to died for all of us.

      *with the supreme attributes of God, how can God be dead? Should He be the eternal, the first and the last,..

      • Precisely because God is a God, He can’t died unless He became human and died on behalf of human. Jesus became human to feel the temptation that we face, to feel the pain the we feel, to feel how it feels to lost someone that we love. To good to be true? well, thats our God of the Bible

        for example, if you walk on the street and while walking suddenly you step on an ants and the ants died. The ants supposedly walking with his girlfriend and you trying to explain to this ants girlfriends that you accidentally step on her boyfriend and poor ants no matter how hard you try to explain to her, she can’t understand.

        What I am trying to say is, if God did not come as a human and He still up there as a God, no matter how hard He try to describe how much He loves human, its useless. We will not understand it. Honestly, if we compare God knowledge and our knowledge is like comparing human and ants.

      • thanks for your reply, to response to your reply,
        Your comment: … if God did not come as a human and He still up there as a God, no matter how hard He try to describe how much He loves human, its useless. We will not understand it. Honestly, if we compare God knowledge and our knowledge is like comparing human and ants.

        * I think you has contradicted your own belief when in the older comments you said:
        … God is a perfect God, ..
        and then moreover:
        .. God, created time, therefore God lived outside time and He is bigger than time, matter and space,..

        *Then if we both hold to those points, I don’t think God needs to become human and sacrifice himself to show His love to us. I think on the other hand, His love is evident everywhere around us, inside us, everywhere,…
        Then the question becomes who was the one who died in the cross at that time ? … Has Jesus PBUH (Peace be Upon Him) ever said that I am God so worship me ?

    • comment #2:
      .. So when Jesus died on that cross, notice that in the old covenant one’s have to sacrifice a lamb offering once every year for sin covering by the blood of the lamb.
      .. The Bible say that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whoever believed should not perished but have eternal life

      *So who is God? Jesus May peace be upon him? holy spirit perhaps ? is Jesus may peace be upon him an alias of God? Has he ever said that I am God so then worship me?

      • God is three in one, The Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit. Its a three different “person” but in unity…Its like a couple who are married the Bible said from then on they are two became one. Its like eve made from Adam’s so I can’t contemplete more on this three in one.

      • c’mon Bro, How can you say the same between one and three? .. Rest assured that Our God is a supreme being, he does not need son or even anything to handle the universe. He can do everything whereas on the other hand, us as human can only take Him as our reliance as nothing in the whole universe as powerful, as merciful, as compassionate, as just, as Him. What do you think?

      • Well, I can’t see where the contradict that you were saying. Absolutely I am agree that God is perfect and the problem is man is not perfect and the ony way to show that you loved someone is to be like him. God have to speak human language. If God is up there and we are down here, and when we make mistake we say yes yes u are God but i’m human, you can’t make mistake but I can. So in order to show us how He loved us, He became human to show show you He loves u.

        It is correct that all the wonder of the earth, the nature show us the majesty of our Lord but nevertheless you will never understand God’s own “heart” by seeing all these things. But if He came as a human being, a creator became like the creation to show how the creation supposed to functions, then u understand His love.

        Yes, indeed it said so many times in the Bible, “I am the way the truth and the Life, he who has seen me, has seen the Father” in other chapter He was asking His disciple Peter and peter answer Him you are the son of God. And if its not clear to you He neevr ever rebuke people worship Him. If He is not God….He can’t be worship because during Jesus time, the law says that u must worship God and God only.

        The Bible said it is His majesty of the Lord to conceal a matter but a delightful for a king to reveal a secret.

      • LOL, absolutely agree, thats why its called trinity. Its something beyond our logical thinking. I can’t explain further about The Father, The Son and The Holy spirit but yes they are triune God. How to explain colors that you never seen before…its not made of primer colour like red, blue, green, or yelow, or black…its something new, how to explain that? we never see and even if we see…we dont know how to describe it. Yes just like that, about God is sometrhing that u can’t describe but my Bible told me about God the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit. Yes I dont know how to explain God three but in one but you dont have to understand everything to know it exsist do you?

      • Hey Edward, I ran into the following when trying to understand Christianity. Let me know what do you think on the following statements:


        CONCEPT OF GOD IN CHRISTIANITY:

        1.
        Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity

        One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, “I am God” or where he says, “worship me”. In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):

        (i) “My Father is greater than I.”
        [The Bible, John 14:28]

        (ii) “My Father is greater than all.”
        [The Bible, John 10:29]

        (iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”
        [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

        (iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….”
        [The Bible, Luke 11:20]

        (v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”
        [The Bible, John 5:30]

        2.
        The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law

        Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

        “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

        “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

        “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
        [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]

        3.
        God Sent Jesus’ (pbuh)

        The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:

        (i)

        “… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.”
        [The Bible, John 14:24]

        (ii)

        “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent.”
        [The Bible, John 17:3]

        4.
        Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

        Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

        “And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

        And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”
        [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

        Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

        5.
        Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God

        The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.

        “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”
        [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

        6.
        The First Commandment is that God is One

        The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:

        “Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad.”

        This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

        “Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.”
        [The Bible, Mark 12:29]

        It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to Jesus’ (pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the One True God.

        Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.

        NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.

        As I expected, that Jesus PBUH never claims that He is God. What do you think?

      • FYI,
        Quoted by Dr. Zakir Naik from:
        http://saif_w.tripod.com/interfaith/general/god/inchristianity.htm

        Position of Jesus (pbuh) in Islam:

        (i)
        Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).

        (ii)
        We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).

        (iii)
        We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.

        (iv)

        We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).

        (v)
        We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.

        (iv)
        We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.

    • comment #3:
      .. when Jesus died He conquered the greatest sin which is death itself because at the beginning God never intend for human to died. God creates human for an eternity relationship.

      *How can be death is the greatest sin? If God never intent for human to died then, how can then the injustice that has been happening in this world be judged, be rewarded and be punished ? Is death the end of everything?

      • Death only came when human sins. God never intended human to died when God created him.

        The injustice that happening in this world, right now as I am speaking all had been punished and judged at the cross 2000 years ago. Like I said, God is living outside time, because God is greater than time. In the Bible it said, God predicts who will receive Him and those who receive Him and what He did on the cross will have eternal life.

        Death is not the end of everything. In fact, death had been conquered and no more sting. It simply means that for the beleivers, death is simply dead of the body because the body is flesh, subject to decay. But the spirit will live eternally. In fact, when the beleiver died, the first expereince they gonna have is that they feel so alive. Why? because what keeping them fatique, tired its all in the body.

      • c’mon bro, we are all blessed with perfect mind to think, to be skeptical about everything we do. so on your comment:
        … The injustice that happening in this world, right now as I am speaking all had been punished and judged at the cross 2000 years ago.
        .. Death is not the end of everything. In fact, death had been conquered and no more sting. It simply means that for the beleivers, death is simply dead of the body because the body is flesh, subject to decay. But the spirit will live eternally. In fact, when the beleiver died, the first expereince they gonna have is that they feel so alive.

        * I don’t think is fair to say that all sins that has been happening in this world until the day of judgment has been compensated by the person who died on the cross 2000 years ago. It just does not make any sense to me. does it to you? ..
        How do you define the believers? .. to whom the hell is created for?. Thanks.🙂

    • comment #4:
      … the answer is because God wants people to know that we, human needs a savior. We tend to boast on our capabilities in keeping the God law and we think that we can do it. The fact we all sinned, and we all need a savior and God dont want to deal with us based on rules and regulations. He wants a relationship.

      *As God is the most compassionate, the most merciful, how can He not want to deal with us as the sinner? I believe that if one really wants to return to Him and works toward it, God will accept our repentance as long as tried our best not to sin again.
      I think it’s just the perception of man that God would not accept our repentance due to our sins. on the other hand, the bountiful of mercy and love that God has would overcome our sins provided that we do really want Him to forgive us🙂

      • Bro, I never said things about God is logical, it is not. Thats why its called beleivers because you believe things that u cant understand.

        If you know the valued of a person that died on the cross 2000 years ago, you wouldnt say that. It is God himself, the creator of heaven and earth the one who died for every sin. In fact, actually its an overpayment. The whole sins in the world combined together still much left over for what Jesus had done. The Bible said “by one man offense (which is adam) death reign through the one, much more those who received abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness will reign through the one, Jesus Christ”

        The hell is never created for human. God never meant to create hell for human.

        God wants to deal with us as a sinner, in fact, because what Jesus done on the cross, God never see you as a sinner. God always see us righteous. The problem with God is that He is holy, you can’t stand one in one with God if you have a single spot of sin, you died. But thanks be to God today, if you simply accept what His son Jesus done for you and I, you are forever righteous because God seen you righteous.

      • My curiosity deepens on the Christianity faith itself. I started to look for information about the bible, the holy scripture of Christianity and suddenly I was surprised by my finding:

        “50,000 errors in the bible”
        Perhaps you may want to read it too at:
        http://www.jamaat.net/bible/AwakeArticle%281957%29.html

        It was published in,
        The Jehovah’s Witnesses in their “AWAKE!” Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline — “50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?”

        Let me know what do you think on the expert’s findings written on the article? Thanks.

    • lastly but not least:
      .. God is so good, He is not looking for someone who can obey His law or serving Him. No, God have millions of angels who works tirelessly 24 hr praising and worship him. God created humans according to His image so that He can pur out His heart of love to us. We are the beneficiary of all the good things.

      *Correct that whatever we do will not increase His magnificent kingdom or even deter it. On the other hand, whatever we do to please Him will only benefit ourselves and probably others, certainly not Him. However, to say that we are created just to receive the good things without being asked for it is naive. I would say is illogical as we receive bad things too during the course of our life.
      if we hold it true, how can a person that enjoy His mercy and love and use it to the benefit of others would be considered the same by God with other people who use the same amount of love and mercy to make sin to God?

      Thanks, Edward
      Aji Prabowo is welcoming any comment to seek for the truth,.. question your belief so that you can believe with the correct understanding,.. so then your heart will be calm, peace and satisfied

      • like I said again, today, for the beleiver…its not about what we do, its about what He did.
        If you married to someone, and I beleived u already married. If you have a son, what is the purpose of your son and wife?

        You love your son and wife unconditionally and in fact, if you are a billionare (which God is, He is the owner of everything). You will want to give gifts, love, everything to your son rite? you never think about punishing him or giving him diesease do u? yes you may want them to learn to behave and proper manner but never by any means, u try to teach them by giving them illness did u? u will not try to burn your son’s finger to teach him a lesson that you cannot play with fire. do u?

        if you being a father can do that, what makes you think God the creator, the love itself will not do much mroe than u did?
        Yes He may want u to be like Him but His heart is to love u and pour our His gift to u. In fact, its a joy for a father to give gifts to his own son and seeing the son enjoying it. does it?

        about making a good things, or sinning,…I am for you that I am against sin. we all against sin. But the different is, how do you get from here. I beleive in God’s way to make sinner repent from their own sin.

      • you see Edward, God is all Just. So then, I belief with His justice He would surely punish the sinners in the hellfire and/or in this world and reward the good-doers in the bliss of paradise and/or in this world.

        as simple as that, don’t you think so?

    • Another interesting posting I found in similar websites:
      … the teaching of the Master (Jesus) that salvation only comes through keeping of the commandments (Mathew 19:16-17)
      Quoted from:
      http://www.jamaat.net/crux/Crux1-5.html

      *That makes more sense to me than believing the crucifixion of a single person saves everyone. Does it to you?

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